{"id":17419,"date":"2019-08-02T02:05:51","date_gmt":"2019-08-02T02:05:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lifeandnews.com\/articles\/?p=17419"},"modified":"2019-08-03T08:54:03","modified_gmt":"2019-08-03T08:54:03","slug":"vital-signs-the-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-us-democrats-thats-taking-place-before-our-eyes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lifeandnews.com\/articles\/vital-signs-the-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-us-democrats-thats-taking-place-before-our-eyes\/","title":{"rendered":"Vital Signs: the battle for the soul of the US Democrats that&#8217;s taking place before our eyes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/richard-holden-118107\">Richard Holden<\/a>, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/unsw-1414\">UNSW<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Over the past two days the 20 leading contenders for the role of the US Democratic Party\u2019s 2020 presidential candidate have faced off in two debates.<\/p>\n<p>The exchanges between them \u2013 sometimes sharp \u2013 revealed a stark divide on economic matters. In many ways, the party\u2019s core economic narrative is up for grabs for the first time since Bill Clinton reshaped it in the early 1990s.<\/p>\n<p>There were so many contenders that there had to be two rounds, each with 10 candidates, over two nights.<\/p>\n<p>But it was debate 1 in Detroit that was perhaps the most revealing about the distinct economic philosophies.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nRead more:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/two-dozen-candidates-one-big-target-in-a-crowded-democratic-field-who-can-beat-trump-119295\">Two dozen candidates, one big target: in a crowded Democratic field, who can beat Trump?<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>(Aside: debate 2 also had big names and serious contenders like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harris.senate.gov\/\">Kamala Harris<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/joebiden.com\/\">Joe Biden<\/a>, so it was also important, but it didn\u2019t add much that would illustrate the economic divide.)<\/p>\n<p>Debate 1 featured self-avowed \u201cdemocratic socialist\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sanders.senate.gov\/\">Bernie Sanders<\/a>, the man who was Hillary Clinton\u2019s bete-noire in the 2016 primaries. In addition, Massachusetts Senator <a href=\"https:\/\/elizabethwarren.com\/\">Elizabeth Warren<\/a>, South Bend Indiana Mayor <a href=\"https:\/\/peteforamerica.com\/meet-pete\/\">Pete Buttigieg<\/a>, and Congressman <a href=\"https:\/\/betoorourke.com\/\">Beto O&#8217;Rourke<\/a> \u2013 all names even ordinary Americans might be familiar with.<\/p>\n<p>Less well known, but critical, players in the opposing economic philosophies are Senator <a href=\"https:\/\/amyklobuchar.com\/\">Amy Klobuchar<\/a> and Congressman <a href=\"https:\/\/www.johndelaney.com\/\">John Delaney<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You really don\u2019t need to focus much on the other participants like the quirky but entertaining self-help guru <a href=\"https:\/\/marianne.com\/\">Marianne Williamson<\/a>, and the very likeable and reasonable <a href=\"https:\/\/timryanforamerica.com\/\">Tim Ryan<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hickenlooper.com\/\">John Hickenlooper<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>The biggest battle line<\/h2>\n<p>The biggest distinction is between those candidates who believe in markets and those who basically don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sanders.senate.gov\/\">Sanders<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/elizabethwarren.com\/\">Warren<\/a> basically don\u2019t. They want the US government to rail against corporations making lots of money. They think those companies make that money by corrupting politics. They want to aggressively tax the wealthy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.johndelaney.com\/\">Delaney<\/a> has a lot more faith in markets and free enterprise. He was an entrepreneur who took two companies public before the age of 40 and has a net worth of US$65 million.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amyklobuchar.com\/\">Klobuchar<\/a> doesn\u2019t have the same background (she was a prosecutor before entering politics) but also doesn\u2019t think government should do everything.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/peteforamerica.com\/meet-pete\/\">Buttigieg<\/a> (or \u201cMayor Pete\u201d as he is commonly known) was a McKinsey consultant (and Afghanistan War veteran) who is more technocratic, thinking that a good Excel spreadsheet piloted by smart folks can solve a lot of problems.<\/p>\n<p>The two main issues that illustrate the big divide healthcare and taxation.<\/p>\n<h2>Medicare makes the difference stark<\/h2>\n<p>On healthcare there is no dispute that it should be universal, that every American should be covered.<\/p>\n<p>The divide is between those who want there to be <em>only<\/em> government-provided health insurance, and those who want there to be a mix of government and privately-provided insurance.<\/p>\n<p>A little background. \u201cMedicare\u201d in the US is a government-provided free plan for those 65-years and older. Other Americans get their health insurance either through their employer, don\u2019t have health insurance, or since the advent of \u201cObamacare\u201d (the Affordable Care Act) buy it themselves with a subsidy.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nRead more:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/what-the-us-could-learn-from-thailand-about-health-care-coverage-108644\">What the US could learn from Thailand about health care coverage<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Sanders and Warren want what they call \u201cMedicare for all\u201d. By that they mean a single-payer system with no private insurance, everyone on Medicare.<\/p>\n<p>Delaney, Klobuchar and others (especially Joe Biden from debate 2) think that\u2019s nuts. That\u2019s because it implies that the millions of Americans who have and value private insurance would lose it, either because bit was made illegal or because Medicare would price it out of the market.<\/p>\n<p>They say they want a mere public \u201coption\u201d: if you like your insurance you can use it instead of Medicare, otherwise otherwise you use Medicare.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a pretty stark distinction: between banning private commerce and not.<\/p>\n<h2>Over tax, the differences are just as stark<\/h2>\n<p>On taxation, again there is some agreement. All the candidates agree that wealthy Americans should pay more. What\u2019s in dispute is how, and how much.<\/p>\n<p>Warren wants a wealth tax that would take 2% of people\u2019s wealth (not income) in excess of US$50 million (and take 3% of wealth in excess of US$1 billion).<\/p>\n<p>The idea has been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/opinions\/2019\/06\/28\/be-very-skeptical-about-how-much-revenue-elizabeth-warrens-wealth-tax-could-generate\/\">heavily criticised<\/a> by luminaries such as former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers who say it won\u2019t raise much money and will dampen incentive. They are pushing for laws which will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/opinion\/2019\/03\/28\/broader-tax-base-that-closes-loopholes-would-raise-more-money-than-plans-ocasio-cortez-and-warren\/Bv16zhTAkuEx08SiNrjx9J\/story.html\">close loopholes and tax shelters<\/a> instead.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nRead more:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/so-you-want-to-tax-the-rich-heres-which-candidates-plan-makes-the-most-sense-111945\">So you want to tax the rich \u2013 here&#8217;s which candidate&#8217;s plan makes the most sense<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The idea has also been sharply opposed in the debate by John Delaney, who wants instead to increase the rate of capital gains tax (which, as in Australia, is lower than the income tax rate) and reverse <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebalance.com\/trump-s-tax-plan-how-it-affects-you-4113968\">Donald Trump\u2019s tax cuts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here again, the contrast is between candidates trying to get more money from the wealthy while preserving incentives and candidates who see significant wealth as essentially immoral.<\/p>\n<h2>For years to come, the winner will take all<\/h2>\n<p>In essence the 2020 candidates are arguing about whether the third-way, market-oriented approach that Bill Clinton brought to the Democratic Party will endure, or be replaced with democratic socialism that \u201csoaks the rich\u201d and views private enterprise with scepticism.<\/p>\n<p>At this stage there\u2019s no telling which side will prevail. The result will have profound consequences for Americans for years to come.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nRead more:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/us-democratic-presidential-primaries-biden-leading-followed-by-sanders-warren-harris-and-will-trump-be-beaten-120340\">US Democratic presidential primaries: Biden leading, followed by Sanders, Warren, Harris; and will Trump be beaten?<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/em><br \/>\n<!-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag. 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More info: http:\/\/theconversation.com\/republishing-guidelines --><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/richard-holden-118107\">Richard Holden<\/a>, Professor of Economics, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/unsw-1414\">UNSW<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>This article is republished from <a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Read the <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/vital-signs-the-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-us-democrats-thats-taking-place-before-our-eyes-121298\">original article<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Richard Holden, UNSW Over the past two days the 20 leading contenders for the role of the US Democratic Party\u2019s 2020 presidential candidate have faced off in two debates. The exchanges between them \u2013 sometimes sharp \u2013 revealed a stark divide on economic matters. 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